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Member Profile: Peter Pollard, Advocate for Child Sexual Abuse Prevention and Domestic Violence Group Facilitator

What do you do, and what does your organization do?

Peter Pollard is the Communication and Professional Relations Director at 1in6, a national organization that works to provide resources and information to help adult male survivors of sexual abuse and unwanted sexual behavior during childhood to have healthier, happier lives. He also serves as a facilitator for groups for men who have engaged in intimate partner violence and is the western Massachusetts Area Director for the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests (SNAP). In previous lives, Peter was a newspaper man and a social worker in child protection.

When did you learn about ACEs, and how did that change your work or life?

Peter remembers hearing about ACEs shortly after the 2005 studies came out and soon after he went to hear Robert Anda speak at a nearby college. What he heard validated many of the experiences he had in child protection. Over the 15 years he spent in child protection he saw many children grow up. When they were young their trauma was respected and understood, but as soon as they turned 18 their behavior was criminalized, even though they were reacting to the same trauma. ACEs gave Peter a framework with which to understand this; he felt he had found the “holy grail.”

 

What personal or professional moment or event in your life inspired you to work on ACEs?

 

The experience that most inspired Peter happened 20 years ago and can be read about in his recent blog post. While he was working at a newspaper, a man was arrested for very violent acts of child abuse. Peter got to know him and understand his experience. Although Peter is very clear that none of this excuses the man’s behavior, Peter began to understand that the community needed to share more responsibility for violent behavior. He believes that we need to share responsibility for how we fail children and fail the adults they become when we have strictly punitive responses to these behaviors. He realized that while it was easiest for society to find and punish the “bad guy,” this did little to understand the causes of that violent behavior and change it. After this experience, Peter left the newspaper business, faced his own trauma history, and went into social work.

 

How have you used ACEs in your work or life? Has it changed what you do?

  

When Peter works in his many capacities, he makes sure his actions are informed by his ACEs knowledge. In his work with men who engaged in domestic violence, he tries to separate who the men are from what they have done and tries to see their experiences as an important piece of understanding their behavior. He avoids thinking of them as bad people and instead sees them as people who have developed unhealthy survival techniques. To illustrate his point he tells a story. When he was young, he was swimming in a river and ended up in an area that was too deep for him. Two of his friends swam over to help him, but as he struggled to save himself he kept pushing them under. He sees a lot of violence as a result of this type of defective coping; someone is trying to save themselves, but they harm others in the process. Individuals need to take responsibility for the hurt and harm they cause, but we also need to realize that it stems from self-preservation.

 

What does resilience to early childhood adversity mean to you?

When working in child protection, Peter was always struck by the fact that although the children he worked with had experienced horrible things, they still grew up, managed to put one foot in front of the other, and function in the world. He sees this strong desire for resilience and survival as a basic human quality and sees professionals’ role as providing resources and support for this.

 

How would you like to see trauma-informed practices shape your field?

In the domestic violence field Peter would like to see a greater openness to the understanding that trauma is a factor in the lives of people who commit partner violence. In the five years he has facilitated the domestic violence groups, he has not met a single man who did not have a massive trauma history. To ignore this fact seems counterproductive, yet the expectations, approaches, and policies for men who engage in intimate partner violence often resist the legitimacy of dealing with trauma.

 

If you encounter or deal with trauma often in your work, what coping skills do you rely on to stay happy and healthy?

 

While working in child protection Peter never saw another social worker cry, despite regularly dealing with very traumatic situations. Showing emotion might demonstrate they weren’t cut out for the work, so many of them, himself included, would go in the bathroom and cry. Peter now tries to be aware of secondary trauma, and when he’s in a safe place, with a safe person, he makes sure to allow himself these emotions. He also deals with secondary trauma from a position of hope. He draws on the work of Kay Saavitne, from whom he learned that while it is easy in this work to see people’s negative future trajectory, we need to visualize a positive and hopeful outcome for them. Peter also loves to garden and often works from home on his screen porch overlooking his garden.

How do you hope to contribute to and what do you hope to gain from ACEs Connection?

 

Peter is refreshed by the many validating posts and articles shared by ACEs Connection community members. He feels a sense of community with these many people who view the world through a similar lens. On ACEs Connection he hopes to learn from this community and share what he has learned as well.  

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Peter, thanks for your many insights. I think another factor in play here is how society has not socialized men to face personal trauma or deep emotional pain. In turn, this sets up crippling trans-generational modes of relating, some of which are very intra-personally destructive. As you note, an era of oppositional logic (A against B) is proving inadequate to address multi-factoral problems. As a male survivor working with other survivors, their typical delayed admission of childhood trauma means patterns have already been set, stereotypes are self-fulfilling, needed help missed, and surrogate attachments already in place. As you note, this is not justification, but explanation. The amount of childhood trauma behind so many incarcerated men (over 80%) is a systemic problem society has yet to face. As it's been pointed out, binary explanations are proving inadequate to address a far more complicated relational ecosystem.

James,

What a great  image....crossing the Mississippi on a bike!

Hope the trip continues to go well and your conversations spread new understanding all along the way about the value of trauma-informed approaches. GO James! :-)

Thank you for sharing this Peter - when more domestic violence service providers do the work your doing we will see many more men change, transform, and truly begin to make strides in ending the cycle of violence. I Couldn't agree more with what you said, "separate who the men are from what they have done and try to see their experiences as an important piece of understanding their behavior. Avoid thinking of them as bad people and instead sees them as people who have developed unhealthy survival techniques" Thank you again. I'm in Louisiana and will be crossing the Mississippi into Mississippi tomorrow. Best James

Thanks, Jane and Steve and Mary,

It feels pretty clear to me that the resistance comes from a concern that the past trauma will be used to excuse the current abuse of a partner....the "poor me" excuse. I absolutely agree that no amount of trauma history justifies hurting another and that accountability is critical to healing for all the people involved, those victimized and those committing the abusive acts.The thinking around Batterers Intervention Programs was developed at a time and  in a context where it was a struggle to get validation that DV was a problem at all and that it was not okay for men to control women through physical, emotional, sexual, financial violence or threat or whatever other means might be effective. So the resistance to acknowledging anything that might be used to excuse domestic violence was an understandable stance, especially to change societal attitudes.

There's no question that masculine norms still support men's use of male privilege to assert control. But in my experience, that's not the source of the violence. Those rules about masculinity are  the only tools that men have been given to not feel out-of-control. So yes, we have to give men (and women) who are violent with partners new tools and new understandings about how to feel safe and in control of their lives. I don't think we're ever going to get there effectively until we allow them to understand how much that sense of lack of control is often related to past trauma.

What I hear from the guys in my groups so often is that though a violent reaction might have often seemed like a viable response in the moment, they are usually able to see that it ultimately made them feel worse rather than better.  Ironically (and sadly), when they talk about their childhood experiences, which I immediately recognize in my own mind as physical and emotional abuse, they generally don't present it as an excuse. More often than not, they present it as a good model for parenting which their parents were forced to employ because they (the men in the group) were so "bad", so out of control as a child. Shame's a powerful driver.

Great to see you on acesconnection Peter. I love the analogy of harm being done to others as people are trying to adapt and survive themselves in difficult circumstances.

To take a stab at Jane's question, its very difficult (and important) to hold in mind the tension between understanding the root of behavior and accountability. Pure criminal justice responses to harm-doing err on the pole of accountability.  Understanding that slips into excusing errs on the other extreme. We have to remember that understanding the complex factors for harm-doing, including and especially trauma, does not have to mean excusing or lack of accountability. Finding balance between these poles seems key and lack of balance underlies this resistance.  

Thanks for doing this Q-and-A, Peter. Why do you think there's such resistance to acknowledging the childhood trauma of men who batter their partners? 

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