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Good Shame And Bad Shame

In the West, our introduction to power and dominance comes early. Starting with our first moves towards independence, we learn our desire for freedom can be squelched by someone bigger, more powerful, even Goddess-like. Mom. She is the order of things, purveyor of NO!, steadfast in her exertion of Mother's nature. She is the Queen of Toddlerdom.

 

Of course, a good mother doesn't start harsh. (And a "mother" can have any gender — it's the role played that is essential.) She is initially affectionate, swaddling the infant in care and unconditional love. Even cleaning up poop seems to bring her delight. (See how she coos while changing a diaper.)

 

But around 9 to 16 months of age, when the infant morphs into a toddler, and becomes ambulatory and indiscriminate in curiosity, Mother, the greatest Transformer, shape shifts into her steely exterior.

 

No! Don't color on the walls. No! Stay away from the socket. No! Don't hit your sister. No! Don't eat the cat's tail. NO! NO! NO! NO!

 

According to one study, toddlers in the US hear a prohibiting "no," or its derivative, every 9 minutes — this after a lifetime of basic body functions causing celebratory attention. With a cascade of NOs comes the introduction of shame into the emotional lexicon, inhibiting actions and self-expression, teaching submission to forces more powerful than one's own.

 

Granted, the role of these NOs is to distinguish right from wrong, and safe from dangerous, but who knows what the child comprehends. Depending on how the well-meaning parent identifies dangers in the environment, the child may instead perceive the parent as threatening. Given the child's temperament, as well as the caregiver's child rearing skills, the child may become anxious, or shut down, fearing abandonment for not being good enough, or wishing to flee contact altogether.

 

Learning to feel shame is likely an unavoidable lesson. It's a basic way we bond, and has been for millions of years. Nevertheless, there are variations between cultures, families, societies, and people for how shame is learned, applied, as well as experienced. For example, Japan is often described as a high-shame culture. The adage about how the nail that sticks out becomes the one hammered down is commonly stated as evidence of Japan's use of shame to order its society.

 

The US is also a shame-based society, although unlike the Japanese, we are predominantly shame avoidant, a trait seen in the self-centered, so-called "narcissistic" obsession with appearances and status for which we are globally recognized.

 

Some of our shame avoidance likely arises from child rearing practices that promote the rugged individualism symbolizing the American way of life. No one wants to seem too vulnerable to the influence of another. Yet this is likely only one reason persona often takes precedence over the authentic self. The US is also the industrialized country with the highest record of childhood abuse, and childhood abuse is one of life's most shaming experiences.

 

Generally speaking, shame is a healthy and useful emotion. At its core, shame is the fear of disconnection and potentially supports "prosocial" behavior, thus acting in ways that secure membership in a group. Showing shame can contribute to repairing social bonds when there has been an offense. It signals to others that you know you have failed to respond as expected. The humiliation, sadness, fear, and anger that shame causes are like a hot poker, reducing the likelihood you'll repeat the foible that led to feelings of shame.

 

Shame, however, takes on a more defensive role when it is a response to childhood abuse. Then shame reverts to its more primitive form, acting more as neurobiological regulator than as emotional prod for dealing with the social consequences of one's actions.

 

Sometimes in response to submitting to abuse, a child will split off feelings of shame along with feelings of fear. Dissociating these emotions contributes to the abused child's ability to stay attached to the caregiver. In some cases, in order to continue believing the caregiver is a worthy love object and attachment figure, the child may begin to believe that she is the one who is bad and worthless, and undeserving of love. Thus, the child begins to identify herself or himself with feelings of shame, rather than an action or a behavior.

 

 

The outcome is more than just feelings and thoughts contributing to low self-worth. Feelings of shame can also trigger reminders of the abuse, along with submissive defense responses. (For some, avoidance of shame leads to aggression, which I wrote about in a chapter titled "Phenomenology of Violence," published in Violence In/And The Great Lakes.)

 

When shame triggers submission, the cues that signal danger will likely fail to activate other survival tactics, such as fighting or fleeing. In one study of people with histories of childhood sexual abuse who were revictimized as adults, feelings of shame were the greatest indicator of the likelihood of revictimization — even greater than dissociation, the hallmark defense response of the trauma survivor.

 

Shame is the emotion that teaches us to curb behaviors that might interfere with social connections. Again, this is not a bad thing. However, when shame becomes associated with one's personhood and sense of value, well, that's when shame has lost its utility as a tool for social connection and has become a person's private hell.

 

Rarely do people talk about the shame associated with histories of childhood abuse. But talking about this shame helps disintegrate the self-persecuting shell it creates, which although constructed to keep a person safe, also keeps the world out.

 

If I were to speak about abuse-related shame symbolically (as a good Jungian would), I would describe the Wizard of Oz as a tale about overcoming shame, with all the characters representing parts of the self that split off in response to the trauma of abuse — and when the time is right, contribute to the quest for integration. And shame would play a central role in the initial fragmentation, as well as keeping fragmentation as the psyche's norm.

 

The Tin Woodman represents the search for safe love and attachment. The Scarecrow reveals the need for wisdom and mindfulness. The Lion shows the necessity of a healthy fight response. And Dorothy personifies the isolated, wounded self recoiling from the persecuting shell of shame.

 

The yellow brick road is the journey towards integration and away from the fear of overwhelming feelings, especially shame. The Wicked Witch is Dorothy's persecuting shame, keeping Dorothy in a false state of goodness and purity (I mean really, that bow?), unable to address the feelings of low self-worth ignited when shame gets too close.

 

Once Dorothy connects with her courage to face down the Wicked Witch, she begins to gain her stride, commencing the schlep to Oz, which granted, turns out to be a false start, but still, she finds herself one step closer to an authentic sense of self and a realistic understanding of the world she inhabits. And really, that's what healing shame is all about: becoming what vulnerability researcher BrenÉ Brown calls whole hearted, taking the risk to love yourself (even the ugly parts), to become vulnerable, and to open to the rough and tumble nature of belonging to the tribe in which shame plays a necessary and binding role.

 

Book References

 

Turner, Jonathan H. 2000. On the Origins of Human Emotions. Stanford: Stanford University Press.

 

© 2015 Laura K Kerr, PhD. All rights reserved (applies to writing and photography).

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Tina the child you are referencing is why we are doing this work, and why we must continue to do this work so that children do not have to go through such terrible experiences! Experiences that they then spend the rest of their lives trying to overcome. From a personal perspective the trauma I endured has in the end served me to become a better man, it has made me more humble and forgiving. It has also helped me to understand the power of vulnerability and contrition. I spent much of my life walking around angry and hurt, disconnected from myself and my worth. It's taken a lot of work but I am now at peace and like the man I've become. I also have come to understand that what happened to me does not define who I am and more importantly it's driven me to search for and acquire the tools to heal. I don't know if one ever truly heals but I do know that one can make peace with themselves, love themselves and in turn be able to love others. I also know that we are here for a reason. That we are here to be of service. For me that has become infused with a desire to break the cycle of violence, to actually go beyond breaking the cycle and create a new cycle, a new paradigm that others can experience. Recently I watched a YouTube video featuring Laura Porter Co-Founder of ACE Interface and I'm attaching a slide from that presentation that for me visualizes hope. It identifies that if we help and support those adults impacted by ACE's we directly impact the children. Thank you for sharing Tina, I value and am strengthened by your strength.

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Shame and it's association to coercive control.  

 

I don't know just a few thoughts.  

 

How would this work when mom sits back and lets dad be a sadist.  Mom, never affectionate.  Mom lets you know from the start she hates you. Dad takes advantage of the fact.  Now he is a cat and you are his captive mouse.  

 

Mom, never in love at all with her own child, allows the worse of abuse from a  very mental ill and sadistic man that she is madly in love with.  

 

A child who never says "no".  A child who never speaks and does everything to be as invisible as possible, hardly trying to breath so that movement of the chest on the in-breath in impreceptable.  

 

It seems a whole different beast when illogically tortured by a shame filled and disturbed father --- in this case you don't wear your own shame, you're forced to wear someone else's while it is a little easier because it is so obvious that this is not about you.   Do you buy into the "I hate myself?" Yep.  Do you "dissociate and cut to feel?" I did.  

 

However I always felt lucky, The contemptuous and in no way inconspicuous hate of my parents towards me make it easy to see --- this was not about me.    Still believing you are bad, worthless, and horrible is inevitable.  But it made me wonder, was I abusive in some other life?  Was I Hitler?  Was I some monster now reaping what I had sowed?  Magical thinking --- that childhood center of the universe thing.  In control no matter what when there is absolutely no control at all. 

 

The young mind exposed such sadism has no choice but to believe in her own worthlessness and no choice but to hate the parents-- at least that was how it was for me.  Shame is a terrible emotion. But for me, I always knew, I was wearing someone else's coat of shame.  It wasn't my skin.  It was my dad who hated himself so he Hurt (and really hurt bad) me.....

 

Random thoughts and musings....

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Originally Posted by Laura K Kerr, PhD:

Thank you Mem, Dan, James, and Janie for sharing your wisdom. I feel very centered and calmed by your commentary and insights. By speaking and writing about 'bad' shame, we take away the silence that intensifies the suffering.

 

Mem and Janie, you both asked about how to work with shame, which is a central part of the book I am writing. To describe the approach briefly, I go back to the association of shame with submission. Defense responses are unconsciously activated, so I work with the fundamental core organizers of experience (thoughts, body sensations, memories and perceptions, emotions, and body movements) to organize experience away from shame and towards nonjudgmental self-awareness. There is also a need to change one's attitudes towards society, including how one perceives one's role in it.

 

I know this is a bit vague (!), which is probably why it's taking a book to describe what I am talking about. Both sensorimotor psychotherapy and Jungian psychology played a big factor in both my understanding of the nature of shame and how to work through it. 

Laura greatly looking forward to your book!

Originally Posted by Janie Lancaster:

James, I'd like to comment on what you said about "how to reach an abused and neglected introvert"

As an author I have had the experience of working with differing age groups and have found a powerful tool in teaching kids about autobiographical fictional writing. This kind of writing can help an introvert to tell without telling and help them to see a situation by looking from the outside in rather than the inside out.

 

I know this because I wrote a book "Emily Out of My Mother's Darkness" that was a work of autobiographical fiction. I didn't want to write this book but it was character driven and the character would not let me rest until I finished the book. Although I never want to write another one like it (never say never) it was powerful in my life and helped me to see and understand my true identity through the character of Emily. I explain this power of writing and then...

 

I start off with mind mapping emotions and feelings then add situations that can cause those feelings. I use the words from the kids in the classroom along with their comments and feedback to get them to think about solving these kind of problems. The first time I used this with some troubled preteens I was amazed at the response and how it opened up a flood of great ideas and stories from the kids.

 

One 12 year old girl whose head was down during most of my presentation raised her head and her hand and asked if writing can help with depression. My heart went out to her because I knew how she was feeling. I told her how my writing helped me to understand my feelings and how it can help her too. 

I hope this information helps you to help others.

 

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 Hi Janie,

Thank you for sharing an aspect of your work and process. Identifying needs and feelings is something we can all benefit from, and a great place to do that is on the written page.  I'm glad to hear that you have found an approach that has been healing for yourself and helpful to others. Your words reinforce my belief that we must continue to challenge the attitudes of judgement that is pervasive in our society.

Thank you Mem, Dan, James, and Janie for sharing your wisdom. I feel very centered and calmed by your commentary and insights. By speaking and writing about 'bad' shame, we take away the silence that intensifies the suffering.

 

Mem and Janie, you both asked about how to work with shame, which is a central part of the book I am writing. To describe the approach briefly, I go back to the association of shame with submission. Defense responses are unconsciously activated, so I work with the fundamental core organizers of experience (thoughts, body sensations, memories and perceptions, emotions, and body movements) to organize experience away from shame and towards nonjudgmental self-awareness. There is also a need to change one's attitudes towards society, including how one perceives one's role in it.

 

I know this is a bit vague (!), which is probably why it's taking a book to describe what I am talking about. Both sensorimotor psychotherapy and Jungian psychology played a big factor in both my understanding of the nature of shame and how to work through it. 

Laura, can you share with us some of the work you did to help you to overcome that kind of shame. BTW I really like the way you use the story of the Wizard of OZ to explain things.

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James, I'd like to comment on what you said about "how to reach an abused and neglected introvert"

As an author I have had the experience of working with differing age groups and have found a powerful tool in teaching kids about autobiographical fictional writing. This kind of writing can help an introvert to tell without telling and help them to see a situation by looking from the outside in rather than the inside out.

 

I know this because I wrote a book "Emily Out of My Mother's Darkness" that was a work of autobiographical fiction. I didn't want to write this book but it was character driven and the character would not let me rest until I finished the book. Although I never want to write another one like it (never say never) it was powerful in my life and helped me to see and understand my true identity through the character of Emily. I explain this power of writing and then...

 

I start off with mind mapping emotions and feelings then add situations that can cause those feelings. I use the words from the kids in the classroom along with their comments and feedback to get them to think about solving these kind of problems. The first time I used this with some troubled preteens I was amazed at the response and how it opened up a flood of great ideas and stories from the kids.

 

One 12 year old girl whose head was down during most of my presentation raised her head and her hand and asked if writing can help with depression. My heart went out to her because I knew how she was feeling. I told her how my writing helped me to understand my feelings and how it can help her too. 

I hope this information helps you to help others.

 

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Thank you Laura, the following lines stood out for me -"Rarely do people talk about the shame associated with histories of childhood abuse. But talking about this shame helps disintegrate the self-persecuting shell it creates, which although constructed to keep a person safe, also keeps the world out." - Recently I wrote a blog post on ACE's, the primary intent was to begin a dialogue with regards to how our ACE awareness impacts how we view domestic violence.

 
Your post on shame sheds a light for me as to why, though many read it no one shared their thoughts or story. Another great insight came from a friend who read my post and I want to share what he wrote in it's entirety because I think it's extremely important and has put me to thinking about the the way we approach the work of healing through personal narrative -  "Personality traits are important to understand and study when working closely with people. Clearly trust is vital but sometimes its those things that we came to this world with that mutes us. I have been digging into the behaviors of introverts. We all fall on different points on the introvert spectrum but all share common traits. The short of what I’m getting at is that there is a large population of us out here that struggle with the notion of sharing despite our environments.  I’m not so extreme in my introvert nature that I feel muted but its taken years of self examination, realization and spiritual understanding for me to find my outside voice.  Even today, I can do it but it comes with severe consequences.  I couldn't sleep for a day after having to do any public demonstration.  This also includes communicating in the written form.  At times, writing can be even more stressful than speaking.  Again, I stress this only because I can’t even imagine how to reach an abused and neglected introvert. Important because about half our population are introverts."
 
I hope that as you continue your work of healing it gives you food for thought as it did for me. Thanks again Laura.

Thank you Laura, for starting the dialogue of shame and helping us to remember the tremendous difficulties caused by shame in the treatment of child abuse.  The shame is embedded in the abuse since a child has a hard time understanding abuse other than that he deserves it because he is bad or unlovable.  Very often for victims of acts of child abuse, the meaning of the act of abuse was given to the child by the perpetrator of the abuse!  

I would like to add to Mem's reference to the notion that with shame "I am wrong/bad" whereas with guilt, "I did a bad thing."   This difference has been made very well by the psychologist and researcher, June Tangney as documented in her great book, Shame and Guilt.   Much of what we may call 'good shame', she might call 'guilt' and I like how it separates the self (shame) from behavior (guilt).    Another example that she notes in her book is that guilt actually is positively correlated with empathy and shame is negatively correlated with empathy.  Shame has related to many signs of psychopathology and guilt, none.    But, whatever we call it, 'bad shame' or just 'shame' as defined by Tangney, it certainly is an emotion that is a major challenge for those who have experienced child abuse and those who treat them.  If we can reduce pervasive shame, the ability to face and resolve terror secondary to abuse is much greater.     

Yes, yes.  Therefore the core component of healing is to unravel/untangle/cast out that toxic shame as much as possible.

i do believe many people don't realise just how much this inner voice of shame as an adult affects them... 

I didn't until I did an enlightening exercise where each person at the same time hit a chair with a towel quite hard over and over until things that lay buried had an opportunity to be conscious and therefore articulated..  So simple, yet so astonishingly effective. That was years ago, but what surfaced in my conscious mind was unknown before this exercise.  You need a space where you can shout if necessary!

i know you've worked long and hard, and thought deeply, so any approaches that worked for you in regard to how best to overcome such toxic shame?

Mem, thanks so much for sharing your observations and your experiences. I resonate with everything you are saying about shame. And like you, my first exposure to the topic was through Bradshaw's work. 

 

So much of my own healing work has been directed towards addressing shame. And indeed, it wasn't until I could really move beyond the shame did I start feeling I had also moved beyond my childhood trauma. 

 

The shame from childhood abuse is profoundly oppressive, so much so that when it finally ends, it's almost like living in a different body. Like you say, it is at the core of the injury. 

Shame: such a powerful yet very much underrated word belying the impact that unhealthy shame produces.

To me as a word it conjures more of a reaction in me than the word resilience.

To me shame based childrearing is the exact opposite of empowering practices.  I have seen it so often used in (even!) 'functional' families that seemed quite trivial at the time, but in fact know that the recipient of the shaming behaviour was emotionally attuned to what it was meant to do: make one behave in the manner that the parent wants them to. Or the siblings, cousins, etc are encouraged to take on that role. It's very very effective. I can see how it is used to shape the growing child in all sorts of families, used as a powerful yet rarely mentioned tool in the arsenal of weapons for parent power. Of course there's a sliding scale of its use and toxicity.  Just as there would be awareness of consciously knowing that one is intentionally using it, or not.

Someone wrote, "Guilt is: I did something wrong; shame is: I am wrong/bad" etc.  

This cannot be underestimated in so many, if indeed not all, of the cases of child abuse that  makes it one of the most difficult factors of recovery from child abuse.  Those remnants of shame.  I can only aliken it to a potentially fatal virus, where one may be cleared, as in remission, yet it hides elsewhere in the body, where it lays unseen, ready to reactivate when it's deemed necessary to bring you down...

The more one is aware of people using shame based practices, the more amazed one can be that it used so much in our society and that one wasn't  EVEN AWARE OF IT before, it's that prevalent, yet flies freely under our emotional radar.

Brene Brown is now a popular author in this field, largely because of her intro with the Ted Talks.  I could be wrong, probably am in fact, but John Bradshaw was one of the first to communicate shames toxic effects to lay people. 

So what you say in your blog, Laura is so little understood as the CORE or heart of how children who are abused blame themselves and therefore enable the parent's desire for totalitarian control to be fulfilled.  It has helped me understand that my logical skills, or lack at times thereof, could partially stem from the fact that if one did think logically one could not survive in that household as a child.  The growing brain is effected. How do you recover this ability down the track as an adult who needs it to survive in society?!

 

 

"Shame, however, takes on a more defensive role when it is a response to childhood abuse. Then shame reverts to its more primitive form, acting more as neurobiological regulator than as emotional prod for dealing with the social consequences of one's actions.

 

Sometimes in response to submitting to abuse, a child will split off feelings of shame along with feelings of fear. Dissociating these emotions contributes to the abused child's ability to stay attached to the caregiver. In some cases, in order to continue believing the caregiver is a worthy love object and attachment figure, the child may begin to believe that she is the one who is bad and worthless, and undeserving of love. Thus, the child begins to identify herself or himself with feelings of shame, rather than an action or a behavior."

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