Russell, thank you very much for this. I appreciated that the approaches I already use and teach were being validated. And it also gave me a chuckle, as I'd asked Don a couple of years ago to a radio interview and he rudely blew me off, as he didn't like my brand of 'acronym' intervention. Good to know he would've been happily surprised, had he come to take a look! At the end of the proverbial day I guess we're all doing the best we can to break our own 'vicious cycles,' right? ��