Jane, you bring up a very good point. I think some of our high risk parents would respond better to "child trauma" instead of jumping to the defense when approached for "child abuse." I wonder by changing the language if this would open some doors to getting parents to seek some help or be willing to participate in family reconciliation services. I have a large poster in my office that lists the 10 ACE's along with attributes that build resilience to trump the ACE's in one's life. I have had some very meaningful conversations with parents as they identify their own ACE's by looking at the chart and then listening as I share with them how they can trump those ACE's by developing meaningful adult relationships for support. I don't ask them to reveal their ACE's, I just ask them to look at the chart and share how many ACE's they have experienced in their lives. The problem is so overwhelming, I think we start with one parent at a time. Thanks for all that you do Jane! Jim