In this episode of Transforming Trauma, our host Emily facilitates a discussion between NARM creator Dr. Laurence Heller and Dr. Stephen Porges PhD, the originator of the Polyvagal Theory. Dr. Porges is a distinguished neuroscientist, Professor of Psychiatry at the University of North Carolina, the founding director of the Traumatic Stress Research Consortium, and author. He is also creator of the Safe and Sound Protocol™, a music-based intervention which is a “distilled essence of trust in acoustic signals to achieve physiological shifts.”
Dr. Heller and Dr. Porges discuss cues of safety and the nervous system, connection as our “biological imperative,” as well as shame and life-threat reactions. Dr. Porges describes how the Polyvagal Theory emphasizes the importance of physiological state in the expression of behavioral, mental, and health problems related to traumatic experiences. In their engaging conversation, Dr. Porges presents the polyvagal interpretation of trauma as physiological states similar to NARM’s understanding of adaptive survival strategies. “What we learn in adapting to connection failures very early on in life is what we have a tendency to carry forward, not just on a cognitive level but on an emotional level and a physiological level.” Dr. Heller shares.
Dr. Porges did not set out to so greatly influence the field of trauma, but he is happy to see how much trauma therapists have been able to use the Polyvagal Theory in their understanding and work with trauma. He shares, “What I often say is that we’re a traumatized species. That’s our history. We are transgenerationally traumatized and our journey to a type of normalcy is, can we get back into our bodies and can we feel the states that we’re in? So can we be informed that when our physiology is in a state of threat (…) we’re broadcasting cues of separation and not connection.”
We hope you will enjoy this episode with two pioneers in the trauma field, Dr. Laurence Heller and Dr. Stephen Porges. Both of their models – the Polyvagal Theory and the NeuroAffective Relational Model – have significantly impacted our understanding of trauma and we are honored to host this important conversation.
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