"…it is inside our bodies where this conflict needs to be resolved; that 'the vital force [behind] white supremacy is in our nervous systems.'"
A very powerful interview with Resmaa Menakem by Krista Tippett who is the host of the "On Being" podcast. This fifty-one minute episode is entitled "Notice the Rage; Notice the Silence".
The revelations are convicting and enlightening, but mostly convicting, accessing generational trauma all the way back to the Dark Ages.
Interview Excerpts from the transcript (at the same link as the podcast).
“Trauma decontextualized in a person looks like personality.
"Trauma decontextualized in a family looks like family traits.
"Trauma in a people looks like culture [bodies of culture].
Tippett: [Later] “...I felt like we changed the laws, but we didn’t change ourselves.
" ...And something that you know and that you articulate so well is that the vagus nerve also is about safety; that there’s — the core of us, the core of our bodies, is always asking, first, “Am I in danger; am I safe?”
“And that if we don’t [deal with the vagus nerve and psoas muscle] — you really explained this to me in a new way, that if we haven’t dealt with that, the facts will not penetrate..."
Resmaa Menakem, MSW, LICSW, is a therapist with decades of experience currently in private practice in Minneapolis, MN, specializing in trauma, body-centered psychotherapy, and violence prevention. He has appeared on the Oprah Winfrey Show and Dr. Phil as an expert on conflict and violence. Menakem has studied with bestselling authors Dr. David Schnarch (Passionate Marriage) and Dr. Bessel van der Kolk (The Body Keeps the Score). He also trained at Peter Levine's Somatic Experiencing Trauma Institute.